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Started by: White Crow Sent: 04/02/2001 11:47 11 Replies
I remember reading a post from Akasha about how she doesn't believe in sex magic, and how can you concentrate on your ailing grandmother in the middle of 'the buisness'.

A kind of amusing thought came to me this morning however. Visualisation, as you know is one of the key Wicca/Pagan skills, and in all the books I've read theres been something in there about building up your visualisation skills. However, whether you are solo or with a partner, a highly spiritual Wiccan or a couldnt-care-less atheist, those visualisation skills are never used and developed so much as they are during sex! [Although I've yet to come across a book yet which mentions it]

So there you are, you already have and use the skills and didn't know it! This gives me a great title for a book to write 'Meditation through masturbation' ... I'm sure I'll make money hand over fist with that one!

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White Crow

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From: Akasha Sent: 04/02/2001 14:04 1 of 11
i totally agree with you, sex visualisation is good, but when having sex you dont visualise people who need help getting better or a big pay check made payable to you, unless you are really twisted!
yiou will be well proud of me though, i did try to do some sex magic! unfortunately though as predicted, there was no chance of me ever "releasing the energy" .
so im giving up, at least for a bit, im afraid i need the mental stimulation too much! so unless my spell are going to involve gorgeous men (or women),or goats with carrots shoved up their bums (only joking )i think i will stick to chanting!
lots of love
kash

From: Saffron Sent: 04/02/2001 14:08 2 of 11
Very funny!

Seriously though, when I read Akasha original post I thought to myself that she was slightly missing the point (no offense Kash). The use of sexual stimulation to heighten ones awareness and psychic ability during ritual is very powerful, but isnt something that can be easily acheived. The aim is heighten your psychic ability rather than give yourself an orgasm. You must be very experienced in this technique to be able to fully utilise it in any kind of spell casting, as it requires you to be able to transcend the self pleasure and focus soley on the power being generated. When you are able to achieve this state then it would not be a problem to 'concentrate on your grandmothers ailments' during sex magic.
It needs a lot of practise to achieve this state and you start by meditating and masturbating either by yourself or with a partner, and focus purely on the power building within you. Once you can reach high arousal without focusing on the sexually pleasurable side (which is distracting to say the least) then you can use this technique in spell casting.

From: Akasha Sent: 04/02/2001 15:24 3 of 11
honestly , i do get it.
unfortunately some people, mentioning no names, dont get my sense of humour! i firmly believe in the importance of being able to laugh at youself, and the danger in taking youself too seriously. there used to be a lot of fun stuff on this site, its got a bit serious lately, im sure noone has admitted that they are a nutter for at least a week now!
im afraid i just dont get the sex magic thing, its just the way i am, fair play to those that can do it, i cant. i understand the necessity of practice in all magical techniques, and those i use, i am working on continuously, in a way i was just experimenting to see if it was a skill i wanted to develop furthur, its not. mostly cos i dont think i could deal with it. im a porn star, i masterbate for a living, please dont make me do it any more, pleeease noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
kash

From: White Crow Sent: 04/02/2001 15:32 4 of 11
Sigh...

Mentioning no names ... is that meant at me?

Sorry if I'm being all serious on this site ... this post was actually meant in a semi-light hearted way. But seriously I was commenting that visualisation is actually a skill we use during our day and arent aware of it. Its also interesting to note that people who are not interested in anything spiritual will use it for example in this condition, yet think visualisation is a silly thing!

White Crow

From: Dionne Sent: 04/02/2001 18:54 5 of 11
I know debates are a healthy thing....but pleeeeaaaase don't fight...I canny take it!!....It's goin down cap'n!

Anyway...I'm a nutter....hahahaha...fully confessed!!

Love & light & stuff...

From: Akasha Sent: 04/02/2001 18:58 6 of 11
its ok dionne we love eaeh other really.
we just dont get each other at all!!

From: munkipoo Sent: 10/02/2001 22:16 7 of 11
how about yeah.... just a stab in the dark here....but how about, just having sex, without the magick, then hey woohoo there aint nothin to shout about...i mean if it aint good enuff without some magick then something is wrong there...and u need to find someone whos a good shag....i mean ....the words 'here, let me do it' are bad but....'honey wait a sec while i visualize brad pitt' or something......man that sucks

From: Akasha Sent: 11/02/2001 00:04 8 of 11
are you speaking from experience sweetie?
anyhow that sounds like a great idea except that, for a porn star, i have an extreamly non existent sex life
heeeeeeeeelp meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

From: White Crow Sent: 11/02/2001 13:34 9 of 11
Let me say again, I'm not saying do magic in sex, but rather that there is magic in sex! Personally if I ever write a magic book there will be no 'Sex Magic' chapter, but there will be a 'The Magic of Sex', because it can be a sacred and beautiful act.

Our visualisation skills do not necessarily have to be a mental adultary, where one slip and its 'Take me Mr. Connery...'. We can make love in a room filled with ash trays, leftover take-aways and beer cans, but in our minds we are visualising having sex with the same person on a moonlit beach and feel the breeze on our bodies. That is something magic or no-magic we all do, but outside of the sexual arena we can tether that skill as daydreaming...

Now take a cold shower and think of Anne Widdicome!

White Crow

From: Akasha Sent: 11/02/2001 13:48 10 of 11
well said, you could write a whole book and call it the magic of sex, or you could grow a dodgy beard and call it the joy of sex!

From: scott Sent: 13/02/2001 21:16 11 of 11
To try and stop the argument! Just an idea! B4 performing your sex magic draw posters of runic symbols (or any other magical symbolism) concerning the spell u want to cast, and post them around the room. On the ceiling, all 4 walls, the floor, everywhere so that no matter what happens during the sex act you can see the symbols and concentrate on that. Then u don't have to visualise the person(s), just the symbols. Stopping any freudian, or just plain sick, imagary that might destroy ur concentration!

Just an idea!

Also David Kraig has written a book called "Modern Sex Magic", which I believe is very good. I'm currently reading "Modern Magic" & haven't got to that one yet! But the one I'm reading (also wriiten by Kraig) is excellant for understanding the Kabbalah (& has a chapter on symbolism and sex magic!)

Scott.