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Started by: Dionne Sent: 16/01/2001 15:26 14 Replies
Last night, as I was going to sleep...I kept getting this really odd feeling & I was wondering if anyone could help me work out what it was...

As I was nodding off (I wasn't asleep)...I was getting funny fuzzy feelings...it felt as though someone was tring to talk to me..I'm not really sure if I could make voices out or not..but there was definitely some kind of sound (am I goin mad?!)...but every time I got this feeling (about 4 times)..It startled me & I went back to being completely wide awake..but then kept drifting back to this feeling.
After about the fourth time I was aware that there was something going on & conciously tryed to get the sensation back...but I couldn't (probably because I was trying too hard!)

I'd really like to know what was going on...or at least have an idea!...but at the minute, I haven't got a clue..

Can anyone help me make sense of this???

Bright blessings...

Dionne

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From: Akasha Sent: 16/01/2001 16:09 1 of 14
do you think someone could have bveen trying to cont\ct you psychically?
my gilfriend and i send each other dreams to communicate. and if i cant get hold of a friend or close family i send my spirit animal to their dreams, so if they dream of a white unicorn they know im trying tio get hold of them.
it is possible to enter someones dreams thru spellwork, although this is a kind of grey magic as it is manipulative. and shopuldnt be done without consent. if you are on the verge of sleep, ie in late alpha or theta then this could be the case.
or if you want the science stuff it could just be sleep physiology, ie parts of you are asleep and others arnt, like when you wake in the night paralysed, its just that your mind and part of your body is awake but the bit that stops you acting out your dreams (sleepwalking) is still functioning.

From: Dionne Sent: 16/01/2001 16:38 2 of 14
That was the first thing that came into my head as soon as this had happened "someones trying to contact me"....or maybe that was just wishful thinking...It has happened a couple of times before, quite a long time ago (we're talking maybe years here!)

Like you said...It was in late alpha...I wasn't quite asleep

Every time it happened..I woke up with a bang!...heart beating fast & the lot....so I don't really know what's occurring here!

Maybe it is the scientific thing...I've woken up & couldn't move quite a few times before (like you mentioned in the scientific bit!)..but never thought there was anything odd going on there & never thought any more about it....this just seems different somehow..

Thanks for your reply anyway...& I'll keep you posted!!

Dionne

From: freyarainbowtree Sent: 16/01/2001 19:56 3 of 14
Dionne, have you ever gone anywhere in your sleep, i.e. astral travel. I used to do this loads as a child, not so often now. I would be right on the verge of going to sleep and I would hear fuzzy noises, like interference, and then I would see patterns in front of my closed eyes, kind of like when you scrunch your eyes up tight and then I would feel my body get heavy as my muscles relaxed and I think it's time for a full stop now. Right, that's better! Anyway, after that I would find myself able to "will" myself to move around. My point is what you described sounds just like what happens to me when I leave my body, so if it's something you haven't done before maybe that's what it was. Hope that all made sense anyway. BB, Freya.

From: Dionne Sent: 16/01/2001 21:46 4 of 14
When I was younger (we're talkin about 4 or 5 years old) I used to be able to move around the house...not physically move, but in my mind..

I used to regularly visit & talk to a deer that lived in the kitchen...but the kitchen was a forest (I wonder about myself sometimes!)...from what I can remember, I could control when I went to visit the deer & I used to go to it about once a week...I can't remember how long this went on for though....neither can I remember if I had any strange feelings beforehand...It's a long time ago!!

Do you think this could be something similar to that?

I need all the help I can get on this!

Thanks for your help...it's certainly given me something to think about

blessings...

From: Dionne Sent: 16/01/2001 21:50 5 of 14
Ooops!.....Forgot to mention...

When I've had this fuzzy feeling before (like I said...it's only happened a couple of times...& it was ages ago)....I felt like I was going to pass out....& thats what woke me up...

I don't know if that has any bearing on my strange goings on...but I thought it might be worth mentioning

From: Glade Sent: 16/01/2001 23:03 6 of 14
Hiya Dionne

I think i have some idea what your talking about. like many of the others who replied this happend most with me during childhood. I remember vivid hallucinations of a large golden eagle underneath my desk once and also a shoal of fish at the bottom of my bed. These could be atributed to a temperature cos thats not uncommon with kids but then my niece and nephew have never had anything of this sort happen to them. Have you ever been awake and suddenly every noise even silence seems very very big and loud and the air seems thick i think this happens to a lot of people its hard to describe. It could have something to do with your brain releasing energy which is what happens when your just falling asleep and you wake up with a jolt and you imagined youve stepped of a step that was too big or that youve tripped. Im starting to think that this is when we tap into the sections of our mind that we dont use or have forgotton how. Any other ideas or do you all think im nuts hahahahhaha (laughs insanely) lol

BB GLADE

From: Akasha Sent: 17/01/2001 10:24 7 of 14
Astral travel happens involuntarily when you sleep, thats how lots of people wake up and have OBEs (not the new years honours, out of body experiences) itsperfectly normal.( can you tell i did a level psychology?)
as for the forest in your kitchen dont worry i got one too, and iits not mould!
i have a place i visit in meditation to meet my spirit animals. it has a mountain top, to meet deities and elements, a little way down by a waterfall i have a camfire where i sit and talk to an old native american lady, a forest at the botton of the mountain where i meet my unicorn, who is a kind of astral messsenger, and a cliff top below which are crashing waves and a cave where my spirit guardian lives, shes a dragon.
if i need a new place for something else i find it in my mind. i often go there before i sleep and in a couple of occasions ive been gradually waking in the morning and seen myself curled up asleep on a patch of moss near the clearing where i meet my unicorn. ahh

From: freyarainbowtree Sent: 17/01/2001 20:51 8 of 14
Hiya Glade,
I know exactly what you mean about hearing noises that sound really loud even if there's no actual noise at all. My Nan used to say that it's the energy of the house and the people in it, which you don't notice during the day because of everything else that's going on. As for the feeling like you've just tripped over, I think that's where the expression "dropping off to sleep" comes from. I've always thought of it as my mind slipping into a different state of consciousness and pulling myself back which causes the sensation of falling. Just a thought.

From: AshWolf Sent: 22/01/2001 19:26 9 of 14
been there , done that , ouch

From: Shollo Sent: 22/01/2001 21:06 10 of 14
It would be me that said this,

Just a brief warning, on a non-supernatural level. I had a similar problem many years ago, which i ignored, (well didnt ignore, but used to do lesser banishing ritual, seal my aura that sort of buisness), and it became more frequent until it happened when i was wide awake (still does) sort of jerking awake while still being awake, which was quite embarressing.

So now i have to go to a neurologist, get cat scans and other such stuff, because i let it lie. I mean this to everyone, YES - sometimes things like this may be astral travel, or psychic communications, and so on, and by no means should you go to a doctor, but if it gets to regular occurence then maybe you should. It MAY be a medical problem.

That said, at the moment it doesnt sound like one dionne. Just dont let it get out of hand. Sorry to be the bad tidings bloke here, but as i said, happened to me.

shollo

From: Dionne Sent: 22/01/2001 21:48 11 of 14
I think this may have got a bit off the subject....

just to set the story straight...I'm not jerking awake...well..no more than anyone else does when they fall off the pavement!!

& its not regular....so I'm not worried

Just thought I'd get back on track there..

Blessings...

From: seabhac Sent: 23/01/2001 16:34 12 of 14
Just thought I'd add a little to this though I'm just repeating what others have said. This sounds like astral projection, definitely. You have described the exact feelings I have when travelling. Especially the waking up and not being able to move. Let it happen and see if you can do anything with it.
Blessings
Seabhac

From: Shollo Sent: 23/01/2001 23:00 13 of 14
Voice of cynisism speaks again haha...

Im going to end up being unpopular, but this is how i was taught, question everything, look for non-magical explainations, that way when magic happens, you'll know in your heart that it was magic and not something that you wanted to be magic.

Not that Im saying its not astral - it could be, but it could be a medical condition known as catalepsy, which as all you astral devotees must already know, produces sensations which are easily confused with astral projection. Most obviously, conciousness with paralysis ( its waking up when youre body remains asleep i believe, but i may be wrong ) and leads to vivid hallucination, which is accompanied by physical sensation.

yes i am reading this from a book....Im sad that way :-)

That said, catelpsy leaves you in good company anyway, Edgar Allen Poe for one :-)

Anyways, as i said, always best to challenge your own perceptions. And these were mine. I thank you. haha.

shollo

From: seabhac Sent: 24/01/2001 11:26 14 of 14
Good points well made Shollo. However, I believe that the incidence of Astral projection / travel is far higher than the incidence of Catalepsy in an individual. Catalepsy is a pathological condition which is usually evident as part of a more complex syndrome, usually schizophrenia, or epilepsy. Astral projection is an often involuntary physiological symptom where a particular energy is partially expelled from the physical body. (Spiritual connotations aside of course). Just because something has a "spiritual" meaning and implication, doesn't mean it is not a physical ocurence in it's own right. Astral projection in its involuntary form most frequently occurs at times of extreme trauma and stress, hence "near death experiences". These stimulae both have physical sides to them, so astral projection or leaving the body can be considered in a physical context.
Blessings of a clear sky
Seabhac