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Started by: White Crow Sent: 14/02/2001 18:30 11 Replies
Imagine this scene...

Tommorrow, you have to give up witchcraft. The candles and incense, the wand and athame, the rituals, the ideas.

However, all is not lost, you are allowed to keep one thing, a tool, an idea, or a vision... what would it be?

Before anyone starts the 'I would never give up witchcraft' responce, the idea of this is to ask yourself, what is the one thing in witchcraft that means a great deal to you?

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From: White Crow Sent: 14/02/2001 18:36 1 of 11
Those of you who know me through my posts will not be surprised that what I would keep is a religious idea.

That idea is that God does not have to be just male or just female or even some neutered in between. But that God can be both male AND female. That idea has been really radical to me, and one which seems to make sense of the world. Both myself and my partner are devoted parents and lovers, but our roles are subtly different, but important, in the same way that the role of god and goddess are important but difference. We have no plant without the sun or the earth!

The god and goddess to me are like myself and my wife; one team, one objective, different roles in achieving this. Though that does not mean me and my partner are traditional husband and wife!

Blessed Be

White Crow

From: munkipoo Sent: 14/02/2001 18:42 2 of 11
my knowledge and my power cunningly combined to form my poledge...whatever that is

From: Ebonyriver Sent: 14/02/2001 19:30 3 of 11
I'd also take an idea about deity with me - but to me, something that is more important than the male/female aspect of deity, is the idea that the deity is a guiding force, that they are loving and close and you can have personal conversations with him/her/them/it.

[I'm using the word deity because it doesn't matter to me whether the divine is male, female, one or more - if we are talking about giving up witchcraft - but maybe deity is the wrong word for me to choose - i have absolutly no idea if i'm spelling it right!]

From: Dionne Sent: 14/02/2001 20:13 4 of 11
I'd keep the ability to love & respect nature....

I have done all my life...so couldn't bear to lose it...it's part of me

blessings...

Dionne

From: seabhac Sent: 15/02/2001 10:38 5 of 11
I'd take the ability to journey in the otherworlds, then I wouldn't lose anything because I have everything I need right there!
Seabhac

From: Star Sent: 15/02/2001 10:58 6 of 11
I'd like to keep my Karma. Since becoming a pagan I have descovered the law of three, and am now a big believer in it. I am much more loving and giving and it all comes back to me. When I do bad things it comes back too. Karma has brought me a guide to live my life by, for ultimately we are all selfish, take away everything, leave everything behind, but you are still stuck with your self. Religion can inflict many a moral code on me and I will ignore it, or even abuse it for kicks, but if it comes back on me....... well thats diffierent, I hurt myself too. Its a moral code I understand.
PS. But please let me keep my candles too! They give me such inner peace.

From: Akasha Sent: 15/02/2001 11:34 7 of 11
i would keep the feeling of peace and love i have carried with me since i first started practising.

i have this sort of calm feeling, as well as feeling much stronger as a person. it makes me far more tolerant of others and respectful of all that is around me, i am far more patient and very little fazes me; and as i practice it grows with me.

unfortunately i dont think i could take this without everything else, i think it comes as a result of all i have learnt along the way, the seed was that feeling of coming home when i first discovered wicca and every meditation, every ritual , every time i feel the breeze look at the stars or smelll a flower and percieve it in a different way than i did before, it grows a little bit.

i think this comes from a new knowledge for every time i do these things i learn a little more, now when i look at the moon i feel i know the goddess, and this is not down to one thing its because of a whole lot of things, i would be quite happy to lose the pageantry, the candles inscence, even the big scary knives, as i quite often do when i go out into the wilderness to practice, but it is what i have gained inside that i wouldnt want to lose, and i dont think i could anyway, its there forever now.

kash

ooh that was all a bit heavy wasnt it, must have taken too much medicine today

From: Animal Sent: 15/02/2001 11:51 8 of 11
My toys, My toys, I Can't work without my toys....


But seriously for a moment,

I would leave all my physical posessions as long as I kept my mind & memories,
Everything that is me,was me, and will be me is stored there. My life,love etc. grows in my mind first and oozes out into the world to effect all around me, (somethings seem to come from the heart, but the mind & heart are one in the same for me)
As I am the God and the Goddess, they would always be with me, physical items can be replaced with the mind as long as you have the confidence and ability to control your thoughts/imagination (or whatever you want to call it).

What I mean is, I'd keep myself, as I am everything I know about my belief, and everything I'm going to know is already there.
Animal.

From: munkipoo Sent: 15/02/2001 21:25 9 of 11
everything....that is a thing isnt it ........it isnt plural and it does have the thing bit on the end

From: White Crow Sent: 16/02/2001 22:56 10 of 11
Wow ... thanks for your comments. Some really good answers there!

I found that when doing a ritual I was using loads of candles, incence, statues, tools etc. Sometimes its good to go back to a single simple candle every now and again to help you rebalance on whats really important.

In the same way, its good every so often to look back at the core of your beliefs, that foundation upon which you build everything else...

Blessed Be

White Crow

From: GothsChilde Sent: 19/02/2001 15:15 11 of 11
I would keep myself. I am who I am, I am what I know, I am who I have been, and I will be what I am meant to be. Nobody can take away what you believe, or your religious ideas, or the fact that we are the universe, and the universe is us. Do we really need anything more than ourselves and each other...?

Dee